tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23468469.post8595290521210226683..comments2023-04-04T04:27:20.082-03:00Comments on Taupter's nest: Flashy 32bit diehardsTaupterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04240715531698661992noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23468469.post-86027873242831116682010-05-07T03:58:48.387-03:002010-05-07T03:58:48.387-03:00I have just installed 64-bit Flash plugin on my Ub...I have just installed 64-bit Flash plugin on my Ubuntu 10.04. Here's <a href="http://digg.com/linux_unix/Installing_64_bit_Flash_Plugin_in_Ubuntu_10_04" rel="nofollow">how...</a>obispohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07029754482161478941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23468469.post-86260205270479632582008-10-30T05:53:00.000-03:002008-10-30T05:53:00.000-03:00Nice article!http://www.infinitelyvirtual.comNice article!<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.infinitelyvirtual.com" REL="nofollow">http://www.infinitelyvirtual.com</A>Adam Sternhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02649127878770249976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23468469.post-26692545316192968072008-07-26T16:17:00.000-03:002008-07-26T16:17:00.000-03:00It's now freaking July, almost August 2008 for cry...It's now freaking July, almost August 2008 for crying out loud. is Adobe even ever working or what?<BR/><BR/>This is just uber-silly and dumb. I'm going to have to dump Minefield (x64 Firefox) just because of this. ALL other plugins work just fine in it now. Every other software package out there is available in some type of 64 bit form. Stupid Flash idiocy.Firehorsepowerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13561048675649796505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23468469.post-44942587463335770002008-07-11T12:03:00.000-03:002008-07-11T12:03:00.000-03:00This is an old post, but I want to correct one poi...This is an old post, but I want to correct one point: The Flash plugin on Macs is *not* 64-bit. If you look at the binary in the terminal:<BR/><BR/>file /Library/Internet\ Plug-Ins/Flash\ Player.plugin/Contents/MacOS/Flash\ Player <BR/><BR/>you find that it contains only two architectures, x86 and ppc, but not x86_64 and ppc64. In fact, a search through all of the binaries in my Applications/ folder revealed that the only 64-bit app on my system (Leopard) is Chess! Note that all of the system libraries seem to include 64-bit versions, allowing a developer to deploy 64-bit apps for the Mac if they want.<BR/><BR/>But, the lesson here is that there is no 64-bit Flash anywhere, including the Mac.stanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08688052715877131030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23468469.post-12501510206419372872008-04-15T22:25:00.000-03:002008-04-15T22:25:00.000-03:00I use XP x64 and I'd looked at swfdec and It appea...I use XP x64 and I'd looked at swfdec and It appears to be a Linux effort, It's a nice idea, But since It doesn't work in XP x64, It's not worth downloading. As to Adobe and Flash, If they can't or just won't make a 64 bit version, Then Adobe's head is up their but ignoring pleas to release a working flash plugin for XP x64 and the Firefox(BonEcho 2.0.0.13) web browser that is a 64 bit browser, They've had 2 whole years and not done anything and I think they're hoping x64 will just plain go away, Adobe is STUPID!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23468469.post-49795248347584287582008-04-15T22:22:00.000-03:002008-04-15T22:22:00.000-03:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23468469.post-12951951407010981992007-12-02T11:28:00.000-03:002007-12-02T11:28:00.000-03:00Again its not just linux 64 bit users that are mis...Again its not just linux 64 bit users that are missing out, windows now has xp 64 bit and vista 64 bit operating systems. Funny enough there is no flash player for either unless you want to use a 32 bit browser (which is possible but seems rather pointless when you have paid all this money for a 64 bit system!) there is also very little in the way of antivirus and firewall protection for those using windows 64 bit XP, yet vista 64 is covered (i am not a programmer but that doesnt seem logical to me).<BR/><BR/>I am late to this issue and discussion after battling with a 32 bit o/s on a 64 bit system (amd/asus/nvidia) for 2 years now, putting up with ever increasing crashes (try 30 + in one day dependant on what programs i wish to use that day!) and finally having the money to augment my 64 bit system with a 64 bit o/s just to find out I have to go back to freebie antivirus (explain to me why the freebie ones can support xp 64 while the major ones cant?) and things such as flash player, ooh lol i dont need to get started on my soap box for that one as you lovely people have already done so.<BR/><BR/>I wouldnt even mind paying for 64 bit support from adobe (within reason of course) and I am a single parent putting myself through university, so not by any means financially comfortable let alone secure, but i need decent program support (such as flash players) to access my online study content.<BR/><BR/>Ok, well thats a long enough rant for today lol.Dollfinn!https://www.blogger.com/profile/14769480785069966525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23468469.post-16120672671816804312007-10-30T14:32:00.000-03:002007-10-30T14:32:00.000-03:00Software writers are having enough trouble program...Software writers are having enough trouble programming for 32-bit. It appears they are either afraid, or perhaps incapable, of writing anything for 64-bit. <BR/><BR/>Case and point: How long have 64-bit systems been out; and how many decent 64-bit applications have been written for them?dr. Bongohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07126184035887833821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23468469.post-67131841301012613212007-08-27T13:05:00.000-03:002007-08-27T13:05:00.000-03:00Fwiw, the Open Source community does work on Free ...Fwiw, the Open Source community does work on Free Flash. See for example http://swfdec.freedesktop.org - it's Free and works fine on 64bit and/or PPC. It's not complete yet but progressing fast.Benjaminhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06585580573568488010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23468469.post-12138334910628087672007-08-27T11:53:00.000-03:002007-08-27T11:53:00.000-03:00I imagine its like Skype. They share a common back...I imagine its like Skype. They share a common backend with Windows and their overall developer focus is on Windows. Since on Windows 64bit vs. 32bit doesn't even matter, even for the 3 or 4 people who use 64-bit Windows.<BR/><BR/>I use x86-64 Gentoo, I use some sort of 64-bit wrapper, its not a big deal.Ian Monroehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16953610792430204523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23468469.post-50049582884099471802007-08-27T08:28:00.000-03:002007-08-27T08:28:00.000-03:00I fail to see why anyone expects Adobe to compile ...I fail to see why anyone expects Adobe to compile a version of the Flash Player plugin for 64-bit Linux users.. what the heck kind of market share do you think we (yes, we.. I'm running Firefox 64-bit with nspluginwrapper giving me 32-bit Flash..) command to get a company like Adobe to listen. <BR/><BR/>You know who has 64-bit Flash support? The Mac OS. It would take 30 seconds of work plus.. well a whole crapton of QA testing (which could be cut out by saying 'it's a beta').<BR/><BR/>When someone involved or aware of the linux community gets a job at Adobe, then we'll be in business. But it sure won't be FOSS.<BR/><BR/>If you want FOSS, give some support to Gnash.. I hear they almost have flash video support!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13609728428351871765noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23468469.post-49690059428636024872007-08-27T02:41:00.000-03:002007-08-27T02:41:00.000-03:00Flash is a fuckin joke with its bugorama actionscr...Flash is a fuckin joke with its bugorama actionscript and the lack of real programers to write the flash clients. Im a linux guy but think MS will kick ass when silverlight runs on mono.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01871359428052229548noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23468469.post-89486335732841690122007-08-27T01:17:00.000-03:002007-08-27T01:17:00.000-03:00There is no 64bit version of Flash for Linux, Wind...There is no 64bit version of Flash for Linux, Windows nor Mac OSX...no one has 64-bit, so don't thing it's something against just us Linux users ;)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11709921573280646344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23468469.post-3384611275819228602007-08-27T00:35:00.000-03:002007-08-27T00:35:00.000-03:00"Apparently, the core VM needs a lot of modificati..."Apparently, the core VM needs a lot of modifications to make it 64bit compileable"<BR/><BR/>Yes, and that part also happens to be open source:<BR/><BR/>http://www.mozilla.org/projects/tamarin/<BR/><BR/>Everyone is welcome to contribute patches.Tinic Urohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02808199252300507088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23468469.post-33322449561324852702007-08-26T23:52:00.000-03:002007-08-26T23:52:00.000-03:00I too have felt the shun of Adobe, and others, for...I too have felt the shun of Adobe, and others, for support of the 64-bit arch. I have had to resort to running firefox's 32 bit app on my amd64 system, as well as thunderbird (to get lightning to work). I think that it is time for the 64-bit system to get the respect it deserves.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08117039990681103321noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23468469.post-26834001090025798132007-08-26T23:50:00.000-03:002007-08-26T23:50:00.000-03:00Negative karma to me for defending Adobe, but ther...Negative karma to me for defending Adobe, but there isn't a 64bit version for Windows either. Apparently, the core VM needs a lot of modifications to make it 64bit compileable - probably endian-safe as well (although that doesn't apply to amd64).<BR/><BR/>I whole-heartedly agree that taking Flash to a similar level of openness as PDF would be a great step, though.Jason Stubbshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08749971742585623310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23468469.post-37998848225999616332007-08-26T23:49:00.000-03:002007-08-26T23:49:00.000-03:00"This just in. The flash plugin is free".Gary, you..."This just in. The flash plugin is free".<BR/><BR/>Gary, you know as well as I do, that he meant free as in freedom.<BR/><BR/>I think that Adobe face an interesting challenge porting their application to 64 bit.<BR/><BR/>From what I remember reading about the flash compiler workflow, macromedia wrote in a metalanguage which was then compiled via assembly in the native systems assembly code.<BR/><BR/>I guess the original meta-language developers are long gone, hence the problems porting this code forward to 64 bit.<BR/><BR/>Releasing the code in its metalanguage without the compiler will be a waste of time. <BR/><BR/>Macrodobie won't do this without significant market pressure and most systems -still- run 32 bit operating systems.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps if Apples Leopard ('full 64 bit') build, will not allow hacky backwards compatible plugins, this -may- have enough pull finally push some dollars into this project.<BR/><BR/>But, all this is just speculation, I'm sure the employees of adobe know the real story and can't tell us anyway.<BR/><BR/>Lesson learned, don't use closed source software, you can't fix it even if you are capable.Anonymouzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16018870296209441900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23468469.post-57941769631881288702007-08-26T23:41:00.000-03:002007-08-26T23:41:00.000-03:00Everything is better when its free :-) Yup word up...Everything is better when its free :-) <BR/><BR/>Yup word up but as Gary said it just has not been created yet - 32 bit yes 64 bit no.<BR/><BR/>NSPLUGINWRAPPER is a work around but we will wait for a real release.<BR/><BR/>thanks from your friends @ <A HREF="http;//www.askTheAdmin.com" REL="nofollow">AskTheAdmin.com</A>Karl L. Gechlikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08319210063068776291noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23468469.post-81612564569335976912007-08-26T23:12:00.000-03:002007-08-26T23:12:00.000-03:00I'm still waiting for the Linux-PPC version myself...I'm still waiting for the Linux-PPC version myself... I'd install Linux permanently on my PowerBook in a heartbeat if Adobe would release such a thing.codeman38https://www.blogger.com/profile/09005307767833296869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23468469.post-55226124402195303782007-08-26T22:03:00.000-03:002007-08-26T22:03:00.000-03:00"Everything is better when its free :-)"This just ..."Everything is better when its free :-)"<BR/><BR/>This just in. The flash plugin is free. They just haven't compiled a 64-bit plugin yet. The open source community already have made alternatives, like gnash which can somewhat work. You can also use nspluginwrapper to emulate 32-bit.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00070055955048586070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23468469.post-51304494599636221072007-08-26T22:02:00.000-03:002007-08-26T22:02:00.000-03:00This comment has been removed by the author.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00070055955048586070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23468469.post-4844792847734725762007-08-26T19:00:00.000-03:002007-08-26T19:00:00.000-03:00Amen to that. I also wrote a comment, but it will ...Amen to that. I also wrote a comment, but it will not be published.<BR/><BR/>Still, I would really prefer if the FLOSS community would make an alternative to Adobe Flash. Everything is better when its free :-)floodishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14378652373364085879noreply@blogger.com